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Titel: Need help installing/troubleshooting SoundBlaster audio card
 Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 16:22 Uhr
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Hi,
I am using Kanotix 2005-4 with a harddisk install.
I am trying to give a new life to an old HP Pavillion computer (Intel Celeron 500MHz, 256MB RAM) with the original motherboard but pretty much all else assembled from cannibalized parts from other machines. Everything works well, except for sound.
Originally, the machine had a 'SMART Modular Technologies Inc' modem card with an 'AUDIO RIDER CARD' (with line in, line out and microphone jacks) connected to it by a 8 pin audio cable 5183-9023 (the modem card also had a blue speaker jack).
After checking on the ALSA website that it was supported, I decided to replace this setup with a Sound Blaster Audigy SE sound card.
After installing the card, I ran alsaconf which correctly indentified it, loaded the appropriate modules and made the nessesary changes in the config files. However, I could not get any sound even though applications such as xmms seemed to work normally.
Even though I am a hardware ignoramus completus I decided to do some checking on my own before asking for help.
First, I used the Kanotix live-CD to see what would happen. On bootup, Kanotix correctly identified the card and loaded the correct modules. However, when KDE was loading up I got this message:
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Sound server informational message: error while initializing sound driver: device: default can't be opened for playback (evice or ressource busy). The sound server will continue using the null output device
which is rather weird since on bootup my card should not have been used by any application or service, right?
I then tried a FreeBSD live-CD which also found an error:
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Can't open /dev/dsp!
. I checked and found out that /dev/dsp had not been created.
I decided to look around some more.
I ran lsmod to see which modules were loaded. Here are the results:
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Module Size Used by
iptable_nat 6148 0
ip_nat 16052 1 iptable_nat
ip_conntrack 44848 2 iptable_nat,ip_nat
nfnetlink 5016 2 ip_nat,ip_conntrack
iptable_mangle 2176 0
iptable_filter 2304 0
ip_tables 19456 3 iptable_nat,iptable_mangle,iptable_filter
i810 20480 1
drm 62356 2 i810
lp 9672 0
video 14212 0
thermal 10888 0
processor 18748 1 thermal
fan 3460 0
container 3328 0
button 5008 0
battery 7684 0
ac 3460 0
fuse 30220 0
capability 3208 0
commoncap 5248 1 capability
eth1394 17416 0
de2104x 17536 0
snd_ca0106 29476 1
snd_rawmidi 20128 1 snd_ca0106
snd_seq_device 6796 1 snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec 86048 1 snd_ca0106
snd_pcm_oss 47264 0
snd_mixer_oss 15488 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 76808 3 snd_ca0106,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 20740 1 snd_pcm
snd 45156 10 snd_ca0106,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
ohci1394 30772 0
soundcore 7392 1 snd
usbhid 45024 0
snd_ac97_bus 1920 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_page_alloc 8072 2 snd_ca0106,snd_pcm
ieee1394 284600 2 eth1394,ohci1394
ehci_hcd 30856 0
uhci_hcd 29712 0
i2c_i801 7820 0
usbcore 102912 4 usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
parport_pc 35908 1
parport 30536 2 lp,parport_pc
shpchp 86884 0
pci_hotplug 24372 1 shpchp
hw_random 4500 0
intel_agp 19100 1
agpgart 27592 3 drm,intel_agp
8250_pnp 8320 0
8250 17828 1 8250_pnp
serial_core 17536 1 8250
psmouse 33028 0
serio_raw 5508 0
pcspkr 3424 0
evdev 7296 0
I also used the dconf application to see what hardware/software was detected. This produced a very long file so I grep it with 'sound' to see what would be returned:
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### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/linux-sound-base_noOSS
alias sound off
alias dmasound_core off
alias dmasound_pmac off
alias soundcard off
### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/linux-sound-base_noOSS
ii alsamixergui 0.9.0rc2-1-9 graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard dri
ii arts 1.4.3-3 sound system from the official KDE release
ii esound-common 0.2.36-1 Enlightened Sound Daemon - Common files
ii kanotix-sounds 0.5.5 Kanotix sound themes
ii kmix 3.4.3-5 sound mixer applet for KDE
ii libarts1c2a 1.4.3-3 aRts sound system core components
ii libartsc0 1.4.3-3 aRts sound system C support library
ii libasound2 1.0.10-2 ALSA library
ii libmikmod2 3.1.11-a-6 A portable sound library
ii libsdl-sound1.2 1.0.1-9 Decoder of several sound file formats for SDL
ii linux-sound-base 1.0.10-3 base package for ALSA and OSS sound systems
ii sox 12.17.9-1 A universal sound sample translator
esound-common install
kanotix-sounds install
libasound2 install
libsdl-sound1.2 install
linux-sound-base install
else do vsound command xargs
-lavdopts -noaspect -nosound -pp -ssf \
config config soundslike filter -v version dump \
Finally, I took a look at dmeg to see what I could find there. There was nothing about sound or soundcards, but these is the reported info about EISA/ISA slots (in which my soundcard sits):
For EISA I got this:
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EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0
Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 1
Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 2
EISA: Detected 0 cards.
Which is normal I suppose since I do not have, to my very limited knowledge, anything other than normal ISA cards
and here are PCI related messages:
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root@KanotixBox:/home/vees# dmesg | grep PCI
Allocating PCI resources starting at 20000000 (gap: 10000000:eff00000)
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9ae, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI quirk: region 1000-107f claimed by ICH4 ACPI/GPIO/TCO
PCI quirk: region 1180-11bf claimed by ICH4 GPIO
PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.SLOT._PRT]
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report
PCI: Ignore bogus resource 6 [0:0] of 0000:00:01.0
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1e.0
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1e.0 to 64
ICH: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 11
PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64
PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:09.0 (0114 -> 0115)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 9
PCI: setting IRQ 9 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:09.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:01:09.0, from 255 to 9
PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:09.1 (0114 -> 0115)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 10
PCI: setting IRQ 10 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:09.1[B] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:01:09.1, from 255 to 10
PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:09.2 (0114 -> 0116)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:09.2[C] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:01:09.2, from 255 to 11
PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:09.3 (0114 -> 0117)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:09.3[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
PCI: Via IRQ fixup for 0000:01:09.3, from 255 to 9
ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[9] MMIO=[f4100800-f4100fff] Max Packet=[2048]
PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:08.0 (0104 -> 0105)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:08.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
de2104x PCI Ethernet driver v0.7 (Mar 17, 2004)
PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:0a.0 (0104 -> 0107)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:0a.0[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:01.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
I noticed one more strange thing: the Kanotix live-CD deteced two network card, etho and etho1 except that, again to my very limited knowledge, I only have one network card. KDE's control center detects only one network card (eth0) and one (external) modem (ppp0). Could it be that for some reason I cannot put the new sound card into the ISA slot which previously contained a modem/sound card?!
Sorry for this long post, but I wanted to give you all the info I had before asking for your help.
What shall I do to find and, hopefully, fix the cause of this problem?
Many thanks in advance,
VS |
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Titel: Need help installing/troubleshooting SoundBlaster audio card
Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 20:38 Uhr
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vees,
if xmms seems to play the source, your problem might be, that in kmix something is not enabled or muted. as far as i know, the audigy swaps some jacks in the mixer. so, first open kmix nad enable and pull up everything there is. if you get sound, take the ones not needed out one by one.
and by the way: when i seen mz's sig first, i cracked up so loud, my cats took shelter 
greetz
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Titel: RE: Need help installing/troubleshooting SoundBlaster audio
Verfasst am: 14.07.2006, 22:12 Uhr
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Hi devil28 - greetz to you to,
Again you helping me! I owe you big for your kind help - thanks a lot!
Alas, I did that 'pulling it all up' thing, both with aumix and alsasound. I did not try kmix, so I will try that and come back to report later.
I also tried to manually to disable the motherboard's sound module in the BIOS, but if you can believe that, the BIOS' help said that I should have three options (512kB, 1MB and disable) the actual choice given was only 512kB and 1MB 
I was under the impression that the motherboard should recognize the presence of the soundcard in the ISA slot, but I though manually disabling the legacy/motherboard might be worth the try.
Is there something I can do to clearly establish which 'link' in my 'sound chain' is in need of repair? It there a soundcard troubleshooting for Debian?
Kind regards and, again, many thanks,
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Titel: RE: Need help installing/troubleshooting SoundBlaster audio
Verfasst am: 15.07.2006, 01:03 Uhr
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Audigi from creativ is not an ISA Soundcard but has some trouble with older chipsets and the IRQ-Routing. sometimes the workaround is to change the position on the motherboard. from right to left. AGP spare-slot Audigy other PCI-Card/or spare, spare, ISA, ISA.
this will help for the IRQ-routing. Specialy for older Mainboards, make shure that no other Card can use IRQ-5. Beacuse older MB's does not serve PCI-Specs newer than 2.0 The Audigy is of the type PCI-V2.1 backwardkompatible.
If you need more help, let me know the type/ Vendor of the MB and the other cards. |
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Titel: RE: Need help installing/troubleshooting SoundBlaster audio
Verfasst am: 15.07.2006, 13:04 Uhr
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Hi schnorrer,
I really appreciate your help and, even more so, your offer of further help. Let me try your suggestion over the week-end and come back with results when I am done.
Kind regards,
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Titel: Re: RE: Need help installing/troubleshooting SoundBlaster au
Verfasst am: 16.07.2006, 18:10 Uhr
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schnorrer hat folgendes geschrieben::
Audigi from creativ is not an ISA Soundcard but has some trouble with older chipsets and the IRQ-Routing. sometimes the workaround is to change the position on the motherboard. from right to left. AGP spare-slot Audigy other PCI-Card/or spare, spare, ISA, ISA.
this will help for the IRQ-routing. Specialy for older Mainboards, make shure that no other Card can use IRQ-5. Beacuse older MB's does not serve PCI-Specs newer than 2.0 The Audigy is of the type PCI-V2.1 backwardkompatible.
If you need more help, let me know the type/ Vendor of the MB and the other cards.
Hi schnorrer,
I tried switching the soundcard on the 3 different ISA slot on the motherboard but to no avail. BTW, the motherboard seems to be a MEW-VM model 9BMT180575. When alsaconf let me choose between the legacy system and the soundcard it also identified the legacy as 'Probe Legacy ISA (non P-n-P) chip. What does that mean exactly, non plug and play?!
I also tried another ancient Ensoniq 5880 Audio PCI (rev. 02) sound card with a TriTech TR28602 chipset I had lying around. Alsaconf loaded the ens1371 module but as soon as I tried playing xmms I got a message saying that the soundcard was either alrady used by another application or that I should check whether it was properly configured....
I think I have ripped out about half of the hair on my head by now |
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