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            Titel: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX 
             Verfasst am: 27.08.2006, 10:55 Uhr
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          Hello to all,
 
 
I'm using Kanotix with a NX7010 laptop.
 
Since I changed to the fglrx driver something strange happend.
 
 
After the driver installation image get's fuzzy (very fuzzy), like a refresh rate problem.
 
Only with a drastic change in screen refresh rate I can get a normal (solid) image.
 
 
The problem is, for an example, if I want to run a game (any game) in full screen, image disappears (blank screen).
 
The only solution is to restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace).
 
Even going to tty1 is unuseful because text is unreadable.
 
 
In windowed mode I can run normaly any game (3D or 2D).
 
 
I have the latest BIOS, available in HP, for system and vga card.
 
 
Can anyone help me with this?
 
 
Thnak you very much,
 
Anthon.
 
 
Here is the needed info:
 
 
-Xorg - version
 
 
 
X Window System Version 7.0.0
 
Release Date: 21 December 2005
 
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
 
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.17-1-686 i686
 
Current Operating System: Linux Shadow 2.6.17.9-slh-up-1 #1 PREEMPT Sat Aug 19 09:36:03 CEST 2006 i686
 
Build Date: 16 March 2006
 
 
- lspci
 
 
ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01)
 
 
- fglrxinfo 
 
 
display: :0.0  screen: 0
 
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
 
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
 
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.2)
 
 
- xorg.conf
 
 
Section "Monitor"
 
        Identifier      "Monitor0"
 
        Option  "DPMS"  "true"
 
        VendorName      "LGP"
 
        ModelName       "LGP0000"
 
        HorizSync    31.5 - 64.3 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
 
        VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
 
        ModeLine "1280x800" 68.56 1280 1336 1472 1664 800 801 804 824 -Hsync +Vsync
 
        EndSection
 
 
Section "Device"
 
        Option      "RenderAccel"       "1"
 
        ### Available Driver options are:-
 
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
 
        #Option     "sw_cursor"
 
        #Option     "hw_cursor"
 
        #Option     "NoAccel"
 
        #Option     "ShowCache"
 
        #Option     "ShadowFB"
 
        #Option     "UseFBDev"
 
        #Option     "Rotate"
 
        Identifier  "Card0"
 
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
 
        Driver      "fglrx"
 
        Option      "no_accel" "no"
 
        Option      "no_dri" "no"
 
        Option      "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
 
        Option      "VideoOverlay" "on"
 
        Option      "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
 
        Option      "MonitorLayout" "TMDS,NONE"
 
        Option      "ForceMonitors" "notv"
 
        VendorName  "All"
 
        BoardName  "All"
 
 
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            Titel: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX 
             Verfasst am: 27.08.2006, 13:47 Uhr
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            Titel: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX 
             Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 00:25 Uhr
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          anthonws, a while ago I had similar problems to you ... I've got a similar card to yours ... lspci:
 
ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Secondary) (rev 01)
 
 
and install-fglrx-debian.sh wouldn't fix it.  This is what I did to fix it (with the help of the kind folks on #kanotix on irc):
 
Code: 
apt-get insteall mesa-utils
 
 
... then see if I had direct rendering turned on:
 
Code: 
glxinfo | grep direct
 
 
I didn't, so I removed everything to do with fglrx ... (needed to do "apt-get remove --purge xxxxxx" several times for different xxxxxx's related to fglrx).  Then I did:
 
Code: 
apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
 
 
and changed:
 
Driver "fglrx"
 
to:
 
Driver "radeon"
 
in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 
... then restarted X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
 
... and everything was good and I had direct rendering.
 
 
And the cool thing was, I didn't need any 3rd-party binary drivers for my old ATI card, as the "dri" driver is open source! | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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            Titel: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX 
             Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 02:33 Uhr
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             Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 20:55 Uhr
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          Hello!
 
 
Thank you for your answers and sorry for my late one...
 
 
Piper, I have already the latest fglrx driver, installed with kanotix script.
 
And my system is weekly dist-upgrade and so on and on.
 
 
 
Swynndla, I'm aware that a open source driver exists (it comes originaly with every Kanotix distro).
 
But Piper is right, there are still many games that require the ATI offcial driver.
 
 
Still no chance...
 
 
I'll be giving news.
 
 
Thanks to all,
 
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             Verfasst am: 28.08.2006, 21:03 Uhr
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          This tells me you don't have the fglrx driver installed
 
 
display: :0.0 screen: 0
 
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
 
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
 
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.2)
 
 
 
 
should read like this
 
 
display: :0.0  screen: 0
 
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
 
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic  <--> or your card
 
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)
 
 
Please run the script in my sig to install fglrx or run what I posted in my first post on this thread | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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             Verfasst am: 29.08.2006, 21:27 Uhr
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          Hello!
 
 
Thanks again for your help.
 
 
Well, you were right.
 
Somehow the mesa driver was active and not the fglrx...
 
 
I ran (again, since I was already using the ATI 8.28.  and the problem with fglrxinfo was solved.
 
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 
display: :0.0  screen: 0
 
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
 
OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY/RADEON 9200 DDR Generic
 
OpenGL version string: 1.3.1091 (X4.3.0-8.28. 
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
Now back to the original problem.
 
 
FInally I found the answer in this wiki from Ubuntu:
 
 
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu ... #xorg.conf
 
 
It seems that my laptop (HP NX7010) has a refresh rate problem with the ATI driver after the 8.19.xxx version.
 
 
Unluckly the refresh rate presented in the wiki doesn´t work... The image gets fuzzy again...
 
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 
Section "Monitor"
 
 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
 
 # Very conservative. May flicker.
 
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
 
	VendorName   "LGP"
 
	ModelName    "LGP0000"
 
	HorizSync    31.5 - 64.3
 
	VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0
 
	Modeline     "1280x800" 70.875 1280 1320 1352 1456 800 801 804 820 +hsync +vsync
 
	Option	     "DPMS" "true"
 
EndSection
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
Back to my old refresh rate setting...
 
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 
Section "Monitor"
 
 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
 
 # Very conservative. May flicker.
 
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
 
	VendorName   "LGP"
 
	ModelName    "LGP0000"
 
	HorizSync    31.5 - 64.3
 
	VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0
 
	ModeLine     "1280x800" 68.6 1280 1336 1472 1664 800 801 804 824 -hsync +vsync
 
	Option	     "DPMS" "true"
 
EndSection
 
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The only problem is running games at fullscreen.
 
They probably apply a diferent timing and bang!!!  
 
 
Thanks for everything.
 
 
I'll be posting my progress.
 
 
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             Verfasst am: 29.08.2006, 21:50 Uhr
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            Titel: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX 
             Verfasst am: 31.08.2006, 08:40 Uhr
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 Swynndla hat folgendes geschrieben:: 
... and everything was good and I had direct rendering.
 
 
 
I spoke too soon ... I put my Radeon 9200 SE in another pc, and
 
glxinfo | grep direct
 
direct rendering: No
 
 
... I can't get it to work   | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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            Titel: RE: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX 
             Verfasst am: 31.08.2006, 10:58 Uhr
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          | piper ... if you mean h2's script, nah it didn't work, in fact it turns out that fglrx is worse for my card than mesa. | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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            Titel: RE: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX 
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          Swynndla
 
 
Sorry to hear that  
 
 
What do you mean by "worse" ? 
 
 
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          Small white squares on kde login screen, and when I log in it freezes the whole pc.  I had to restore my root partition with rdiff-backup.
 
 
Apparently, my card (ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]) is notorious for having driver troubles.  I've read on other forums that something the open source mesa drivers work, and if it works then it's suggested that the user doesn't change anything ever. | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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          | I swapped the Radeon 9200 with a nvidia I had in another pc.  The nvidia drivers installed no problem.  Then in the other pc that now has the Radeon 9200, I used h2's excellent script to dist-upgrade and install the fglrx drivers, and it worked! ... phew! | 
         
        
          
          
            
          
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